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Drsat Warning (Scammer)

Post by T134 » Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:27 pm

I just wanted to share some information about a satellite scammer called Dr. Sat (aka pwsurge, aka Serge) out of Toronto. His business is cloaked in lies, deceptions and fraud. He has been banned from Digital Home and exposed as a fraud at Satellite Guys. Before you do business with this person, please do some research.
A bit of bickering or competition isn’t bad for a hobby or industry. Happens all the time in almost every industry or hobby or whatever.

What is really bad for the tiny niche NA True FTA market and hobbyists isn’t really the pirates anymore, it is those who lie, cheat, steal, deceive and commit fraud to get people to buy something. Poor Serge/pwrsurge and DrSat keep getting accused of some of this. It isn’t Brian or I that started it or any “competitor”. This stuff seems to get brought into every other Satelliteguys thread regarding AZbox, and it is being brought up by members and hobbyists.

It seems regardless of the balance of evidence that poor Serge is always defending himself against all these different stories. To be fair to him I took maybe 30 minutes off from doing real FTA stuff today and decided to research whether against all odds and evidence Serge might be telling the truth about DrSat.

I managed to quickly locate the owner of DrSat. Her name is Yabing Zou. I think we all owe pwrsurge and DrSat a big apology……NOT!!!

It is just more lies and deception. YABING ZOU IS SERGE’S WIFE. ALL HE DID IS START USING HER NAME ONCE YOU GUYS STARTED CALLING HIM OUT FOR PRETENDING THAT HE WASN’T DRSAT AND THAT IT WAS A DIFFERENT DEALER/COMPANY. A simple analogy would be putting your car in your wife’s name, yet you continue to own, drive and maintain it just like before.

http://www.bbb.org/kitchener/busine...n ... on-1243495

http://www.sergeandyanbing.com/cfm/sy/i ... pandable=0

https://www.facebook.com/yanbing.zou.7

http://canadiancharities.landoffree.com ... anbing_Zou

http://www.fybush.com/NERW/2008/080512/nerw.html

This whole two different people thing started when Serge suddenly wanted to be a “distributer” instead of a “dealer”. Since the only AZbox dealers were selling legitimate AZboxes from Rick Caylor Serge had to make up something for his “AZbox Canada” dealer list. All of a sudden Drsat & pwrsurge are two different people and Drsat is just an “AZbox Canada” dealer that he has nothing to do with otherwise.

This little deception goes beyond just pretending DrSat is someone else and that there is some big distributor that Serge runs so that end users are duped into buying discontinued old stock STB’s. This stunt has been extended to include a third “person” that works for “AZbox Canada”. If you have ever contacted “AZbox Canada” or “AZbox Americas” or “AZbox USA” odds are you received an email back from a nice young lady named “Sabrina”. Guess who “Sabrina” is? Yup, Yabing Zou. http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/yanbing-sabr ... /5/4b6/b18

Wait, Yabing Zou owns DrSat. Yet “Sabrina” works at AZbox Canada. Actually it would appear they “both” really work at OACCAC (The Ontario Association of Community Care Access Centres) whatever that is. Seems that “DrSat” and “AZbox (insert name here)” got left off the actual list.

A bunch of lies and deceptions meant to get you to buy a discontinued AZbox. I think in the USA doing something or a series of somethings deceitful with the intention (direct or indirect) of getting peoples’ money is called fraud. Maybe in Canada it is just called “I made up some stories and pretended I was/wasn’t part of a company to bolster confidence and get you to buy sh*t under false pretenses, eh?”

This is a great example of exactly what is not good for the FTA community and leads to problems. Someone that has to repeatedly lie, make up stories, pretend companies/factories/support still exist, publish a phony “dealer” list and the like just to get you to buy something is the problem.

I know the last time a bunch of people at Satguys called him out he added more lies and tried to do a bit of revisionist history on whois and websites so I made PDF’s of everything for when the lies change yet again and suddenly “John Smith” is running Drsat.

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Re: Dr. Sat Warning (Scammer)

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Re: Dr. Sat Warning (Scammer)

Post by wwsatellites » Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:33 pm

It is his unethical and deceptive business practices behind the scenes that is the cause of all the rage against him. He is a pest more than anything else who thinks the world owes him something. Here is a copy of a letter he sends around to FTA dealers to intimidate them into not selling certain products because he claims to have exclusive rights for distribution on these products. Of course it is all lies and BS as he has no rights to anything and won't start any legal proceedings against anyone.

Hugh (former owner) at Digital Home has exposed him as a fraudster and proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Serge = Dr. Sat = Azbox Canada

Don't fall for his BS if you get a letter like the following:

WITHOUT PREJUDICE


To whom it may concern,

We are writing this letter in regards to unauthorized use of our AzBox
trademark in the Canadian market with your counterfeit “AZBox Premium HD Plus” product which you currently have listed for sale on your website at: http://www.worldwidesatellites.com/

AzBox Canada was granted exclusive rights to manage and authorize usage
of the AzBox trademark in the Canadian market originally by OpenSat
Lda., manufacturer of AzBox products from Portugal which is now being
operated by HTCE Limited. As per our agreement, we are the sole
distributor of AzBox products in Canada which are only available for
distribution to authorized AzBox Canada dealers so it is clear that you
are selling counterfeit AzBox products. The pictures you have on your
website also support our claim.

Dealers or online retailers who wish to use the AzBox trademark in order
to sell AzBox products in Canada must first apply in order to become an
AzBox Canada authorized dealer. This allows us to ensure that all
retailers selling AzBox products in Canada offer the best level of
service and support to customers purchasing AzBox products in Canada.
Only authorized AzBox Canada dealers have the right to use the AzBox
trademark, AzBox logos and AzBox product images in order to sell AzBox
products in the Canadian market. In addition, customers purchasing from
authorized AzBox Canada dealers don't have to worry about clone or
counterfeit units and benefit from our no-nonsense two year hardware
warranty.

You have 48hrs to remove all “AzBox” products from any of your online or retail storefronts including but not limited to worldwidesatellites.com located in Toronto, ON.

Failure to do so will result in one or more of the following:

* worldwidesatellites.com from Toronto, ON will be added to the unauthorised
retailers list on our website at http://unauthorised.azbox.ca

* Publication of the above list identifying worldwidesatellites.com as an
AzBox counterfeit seller on many websites including but not limited to:

* https://www.facebook.com/AzboxCanada

* https://www.facebook.com/AzboxUS

* http://www.facebook.com/AzBoxHD

* http://www.facebook.com/AZboxnews

* http://www.azbox.com

* http://azboxnews.blogspot.ca

* http://www.azboxnews.com

* http://twitter.com/AzBoxCanada

* http://twitter.com/AzboxNews

* worldwidesatellites.com and its related companies reported as an importer of
counterfeit products to the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) and the
Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP)

* Legal action undertaken against worldwidesatellites.com and its related
companies.

We honestly don't understand why one would bother importing counterfeit
AzBox Premium HD Plus units. Please realize that as a
distributor, firmware development for these devices requires an
investment of time and money which can only be funded from wholesale
product distribution to authorised dealers. Retailers selling
counterfeit AzBox products such as worldwidesatellites.com only ends up forcing
distributors who invest money in firmware development to discontinue
supporting these models due to lack of funding.

If you fully collaborate with us and cease selling all counterfeit AzBox
products, we are willing to consider your application in order to become
an authorised AzBox Canada dealer in order to carry our current AzBox
miniMe American Edition model.

AzBox Canada remains committed in protecting its trademark rights by
taking several measures up to and including legal action against
unauthorized usage of its AzBox trademark and preventing the sale of
counterfeit units in the Canadian marketplace.



Sincerely,

--
AzBox Canada
Email:
Web: http://www.azbox.ca

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Re: Dr. Sat Warning (Scammer)

Post by wwsatellites » Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:44 pm

Would you want to do business with a scammer like him? :thinking

As far as I know, he has sent these bogus letters to many dealers in southern ontario, online dealers like Rick Caylor and probably many more.

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Re: Dr. Sat Warning (Scammer)

Post by fatso » Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:22 am

It looks like you are listed first on that twit's list. Tek2000 also made the list at #4. :toasting

If he hasn't sued you yet, it means he has no exclusive rights and/or patents to any products.

You should write back and maybe just stick this smilie on the letter and nothing else... :mooning
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Re: Dr. Sat Warning (Scammer)

Post by T134 » Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:22 pm

Some more information I wanted to share about Serge:

I'll leave the "coming out" part alone.

I will be happy to add to that whole b.s. with a bit more information. Hopefully I get this in order...

Serge has always been a follower and copycat. When we (AMIKO worldwide, not just me) went after SHD-8900 counterfeits I made a list of counterfeit sellers. Since I had an actual company and factory behind me and they prepared for "clones" in the product design it was easy and 100% to point out the counterfeits. One of the "dealers" that made my counterfeit list also had "AZbox Premium HD+". In my counterfeit report for the particular company I happened to mention they also sold a variety of pirate STB's and AZbox clones. Since I already had records concerning the importation with the particular company I knew for sure the "AZbox" in question was not from OpenSat Portugal and were 100% counterfeit.

Serge visited (as he often does) and copied my counterfeit/clone listing setup. Only problem was that with no company behind him and no advanced methods or cooperation he had no way of telling a clone HD+ supplier from a real one. He was never exclusive distributor for anything. Serge went off accusing a Canadian dealer of selling clones. That dealer happened to be a legitimate dealer of Rick Caylor. That dealer actually bit him back. Cornered in another LIE, Serge basically had no choice but to start accusing Rick Caylor of selling clones. I know some of you guys might have problems with Rick for other reasons, but no one can accuse Rick of dishonesty or selling clones. Rick brough AZbox here, Rick got the things done that got done with AZ for North America. Rick is also a Christian man and a very soft spoken, honest person. He had no problem telling people AZ was done and that he was done when he sold remaining stock.

For Serge to even lob that b.s. at Rick is beyond nuts. That should have tipped you guys off right there. Serge is really lucky that Rick is a New Testament mellow guy.

There is nothing wrong with selling surplus and obsolete equipment. It happens all the time across all industries. Problem with "AZbox" is that there is the fraud/deceit going on that it is a modern product with a company behind it. Sell it as surplus or whatever, but tell people there is no company, no engineers, no support. A few guys might want a box that gets some 4:2:2 some times but sucks at everything else. Tell them. Be honest about it.

I looked at whatever that was years ago. Sad, pathetic and easy to clean from software. I do however, understand it. There are tons of crooks that will rob and steal anything you don't nail down. When you put in hard, honest work you should protect it. Other people shouldn't come to your site and download it in a pathetic attempt to steal.


Good thing that system was protected. Not so good for people that fell for the me/minime thing, they didn't get any channels from the pwrsurge theft. Good thing the work was protected.

In my 30 minutes I got much more than this. I don't want to keep going. I am already tired of having to get involved in what the members here have went off on Serge on for how long now???? I am and I was a hobby guy first. "Drsat" and "Azbox whatever" are not competitors since they sell 2 generation old surplus. I can still understand why some might think it is all b.s. because I run a True FTA company. Guess what guys....ain't getting rich doing this and posting some truth won't change anything.

You guys have a search button for satelliteguys and can find google on your own. Do your own research and figure it out for yourselves, don't take my word for anything.

I put the information, facts and references out there. As far as I am concerned I am done with it. I have real FTA products to work on for a real FTA company for real hobby guys.

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Re: Dr. Sat Warning (Scammer)

Post by tvroadmin » Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:09 pm

I was going to delete this thread, but upon further research, it seems that this Dr. Sat fellow is trying to to monopolize the FTA receiver business in the most unethical manner possible.

One person's input I trust on such matters is Rick Caylor's:

http://rickcaylor.websitetoolbox.com/po ... zbox+serge

Buyer beware.

If you are a dealer and have received demand letters from Serge, please post them here. At this time, dealers should not take these letters seriously and simply ignore this guy.
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Re: Dr. Sat Warning (Scammer)

Post by T134 » Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:36 pm

UPDATE

drsat = pwrSurge = Serge Cormier (in real life)

*** all screenshots were created from simple google searches

More evidence has surfaced that drsat is actively engaged in satellite piracy. He was first suspected of key sharing piracy a few years ago on the forum digitalhome.ca
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piracy_tags.jpg
piracy_accusations.jpg

It is now confirmed beyond a shadow of a doubt that he also supports BISS satellite piracy
biss_key_request.jpg
BISS keys are used to secure backhaul feeds by providers like NFL Sunday Ticket, NHL Center Ice, etc.


It has also been confirmed that drsat is a member at a piracy forum (probably trolls the forum for BISS and other keys)
drsat_member_satellitetesters.jpg
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He also uses several shill accounts to promote the sale of c band satellite equipment
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Buyer beware! This scammer continues to bismirch the reputation of many honest FTA dealers with lies and slander so he can control the FTA hardware market.

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Re: Dr. Sat Warning (Scammer)

Post by feedmaster » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:22 am

The best defense is good offense right Mr. Amiko? I would be willing to bet that Amiko receivers are far more successful in hacking than AZbox receivers and probably sell more to boot. Since you brag about having a North American monopoly with Amiko why cap on somebody trying to stake a claim with the Azbox which actually has what the average FTA hobbyist wants, 4:2:2. Being repulsive like this won't help gain any customers regardless. Happy Holidays

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Re: Dr. Sat Warning (Scammer)

Post by fatso » Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:47 pm

Amiko sells low end cheapy receivers (like most dealers do). That's okay if you are a newbie and are just getting started in c band or ku band FTA. Sounds like an ongoing dealer war if you ask me...

If you want a good quality FTA receiver, look to Europe. The market in Europe is huge and some companies produce top-notch receivers. I'll be testing a commercial quality Cisco receiver very soon!
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