All,

Well if this is the support ( or lack thereof ) from members then I feel this site doesn't deserve me !

AUDIOS

foxcreek

All, Can I get some support from the other members on this ? Do you want to see foxcreek go away ? First of all let me say upfront I am not now nor have I ever been involved in piracy. Other than an interest in technically how piracy is done. It seems to me that admin is trying to use me as an examp...

All,

Take the above for what it's worth ! Prof you'd be better served to play nicer with me !

This forum would be a lot more borring without me !

foxcreek

fatso, I had DTV for several years and I just recently cancelled their service. My original contract had no mention of "early termination fee" anywhere. Well just to show you how desperate they've become on my final bill they tried to charge me $80.00 for early termination. I have my phone service w...

ccompost,

Think about this....... speaking of watermarks with iks all one has to do is
encrypt the control words rendering the watermarks worthless !

To my knowledge no iks server has ever done this. This seems obvious.
iks 2.0

foxcreek

ccompost, I believe you vastly underestimate the pirates ! Why distinguish between iks and hacking ? The result is the same. What keeps DTV secure is the fact their using a unique ( non standard ) packet transmission system not their encryption which would be just as vulnerable to iks as D/N's. Iks ...

mux, Thanks for the history lessen however I stand by my premise. Either Nagra or Dish Network or both must have seen a high probability of generating huge revenue through litigation. What I think happened was to prevent a lawsuit by D/N against Nagra for piracy, Nargra offered to lead the legal fig...

All,

Thanks to all you contributors and thanks to fatso for starting this thread.
It has arroused more participation than I've seen here in a long time !
foxcreek

fatso, At least you responded good for you. I've pretty much given up on trying to motivate people to contribute here ! The cost of the fight against piracy goes way beyond the employees you mentioned at D/N. It really includes the whole relationship with NagraVision and is therefore massively expen...

ALL,

Why haven't I received any feedback ? My last post is profound !
I have essentially exposed the absurdity of the fight against piracy.

Can you imagine how this irrationality has impacted the pay TV industry !
I believe that ultimately it will cause it's demise !

foxcreek